I've been writing stuff on my own, and our keyboard player Cliff [Meyer] has been writing stuff. Aaron our drummer has been working on stuff as well. A few of us got laptops recently, so we're going to try to assimilate that into our setup, and... I dunno. I guess it's time for us to make the next step as far as what we're going to do for the next album, but as of now I can't really say what that's going to be.
I'm assuming it will come out on Ipecac?
Aaron: Yeah. We're happy with them, and they seem happy with us as well, so I don't see being anywhere else for the time being.
I woke up this morning to the radio announcing that Johnny Cash has passed away, and it got me thinking about how they really don't make people of his caliber anymore, and made me wonder who in the current generation of artists will become that kind of icon and have that kind of standing 40 years down the road. As someone who's a label head, a musician, and who spends a lot of time listening to various music from various origins, do you think it's possible... do you think that person's out there? Or is the industry and the climate such today that it's really not possible to have an artist with that kind of artistic longevity and creativity?
Aaron: It's hard to say. I feel like most of the artists who have any sort of substance and anything to say these days are in the underground. It's hard for anybody to rise to the level of popularity that Johnny Cash had, so I think that any of the best artists from our generation are probably going to be forgotten twenty or thirty years down the line. It's a sad thing to say, but it just seems like the music industry is so geared towards selling and towards making people into fashion icons and celebrities, rather than focusing on the content and the quality of their music, that it seems almost impossible to me that anybody who inhabits that realm now is ever going to be remembered as Johnny Cash will be and is now.
For me, personally, I feel like people like Michael Gira or Tom Waits are very important artists, but I just don't see them being remembered or received the same way as Johnny Cash has been, simply because people's tastes are solely dictated by the radio and MTV, which won't play anything that's halfway decent.
So I'm saying... [Laughs] I'm saying there's no hope for anybody good to be remembered from this era of music.
I think there might be some bands that are looked back at as being pretty important, like Radiohead. I feel they're a band that's changed music to a certain degree and has created some sort of legacy. But other than that I see most of the stuff that's out these days as a flash in the pan that no one will give a shit about 20 years from now.
It's too bad.
Aaron: It is.
It just got me thinking if, looking back in hindsight, that actually was the case for artists like Cash back when their careers were starting, or if the industry is really that different. I think that it really is that different.
Aaron: Yeah, I do too. Like I said, I feel that most of the really inspired stuff that's going on in music these days is in the underground, and probably won't extend to far beyond that in most cases.
I don't even feel like there's that many quality rock bands in the mainstream sense. If you look at the really quality bands from the '60s and '70s -- Cream, Led Zeppelin, Hendrix, and all those bands -- not only were they popular, but they were also very innovative for the time, and were doing some groundbreaking things with their music. Most of the bands today that sort of have that are just terrible and uninspired, and lacking any sort of aesthetic. I just feel like rock these days is pretty lifeless.
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